must remember the pastor and preacher, and my father was such a healing lead eer, and so was abraham lincoln. the nation so divided, he is in one of the interesting positions where we'll have to find a way to bring the nation together to heal the nation. i will call for healing and reconciliation, in light of the gun discussions and discourse going on now, that we've got to really consider creating a more nonviolent society. >> berniece king, nice to see you. even if it's from a distance. thank you for being with us. >> thank you, soledad. >> you bet. >> interesting to hear bernice talk, and a lot of opportunities to chat with her over the years. think back 50 years ago, people filling the mall for the march on washington. >> yes. yes. my mom was an organizer for the urban league for the march on washington and tells me how powerful it was to have hundreds of thousands of people descend on the nation's capitol at that time. now you come and on the mall, a monument to martin luther king himself. his spirit is present today. african-american president being sworn in, down the mall. a monument